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research on you and you've probably

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noticed too that

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on your page as a doctor where patients

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are supposed to rate

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you you've got people going on there now

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and criticizing you for speaking out

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about kovid like you know what do you

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know

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you shouldn't be commenting on this

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you're a lone doctor in the midwest and

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leave it up to the experts so uh that

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that's actually now showing up on your

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patient reviews which has got to not be

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fun for you but uh good for you for for

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for

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let's address people like that who say

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what do you know

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all right what do i know about anything

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in medicine

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i have treated various conditions for

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over 40 years

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and those conditions have been

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all the way from a strep throat to

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diabetes and does that make me

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an ear nose and throat specialist does

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that make me

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a endocrinologist absolutely not

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but i do have knowledge and i do have

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the ability to understand

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scientific research and papers

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and i can come to a conclusion

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after seeing and associating myself with

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those who are

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actually writing those papers

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so you've been a doctor for 40 years and

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specializing

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in what family practice i'm a family

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prep i'm a board-certified family

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practitioner

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and that certainly doesn't disqualify me

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from taking care of a variety

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of illnesses diseases

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nor should it but if they put you up

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against dr

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fauci who spent his entire career

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dealing with

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diseases right exclusively diseases

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what do you say about that i say that i

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have listened to dr fauci and he

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has um seemed to waffle back and forth

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on this subject of kobit if we all

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remember correctly he

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came out and first said oh you don't

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need mask

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he's also i have heard him on interviews

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saying that he actually um

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thought that the dosage of the

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hydroxychloroquine

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would be much much higher than that that

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would be required

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in rheumatoid arthritis or lupus and

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those are out and out statements that

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certainly have had controversy over his

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statements

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and his statement now is you must wear a

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mask

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and he said well that was because he

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felt that we would be low on protective

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equipment

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well that is not a reason to not tell

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the truth to the american people

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and when he says that you have

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actually a higher dose for covid

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than you would rheumatoid arthritis or

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i would like to know where he's getting

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that data

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because i mean that is absolutely a farm

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let me interrupt you there because i've

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made that point about fauci and i think

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it's really important to emphasize

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here that he acknowledged

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effectively that he lied about mass

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he's saying that yes in fact they are

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in preventing the transmission but i

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that they were not effective because i

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didn't want there to be a run

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on mask because we were concerned about

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hospitals having enough ppe

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so he he thought the ends justified the

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that it was okay to lie about that

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because there was a higher goal

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of protecting ppe that tells you his

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mo that he is willing if he sees it in

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the public good

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for him to lie about some treatment

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some prophylactic some vaccine whatever

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it may be pertaining to covid

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he basically feels it's okay to lie if

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it ultimately serves what he sees as

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the the good so i think we should all

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look at anything that he says

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now through a special lens now that he's

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admitted that

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and you would probably say that well if

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he thinks a vaccine is the answer to

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then that might cause him to

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other types of therapies such as

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well there was also the excuse for not

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using hydroxycork when that there would

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enough doses for those who

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are already on hydroxychloroquine which

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patients who have lupus or rheumatoid

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and there again that is still a farce

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because we have well over 60 million

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doses of hydroxychloric one that are

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the hydroxychloroquine

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and make that available to the american

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people okay so i don't want to get

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too much into that that specifics now i

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want to stay on on credentials because

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the other thing interesting about

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you as a potential kovit is that you

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were involved very early on

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in in f in tracking this i believe based

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on other interviews

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as early as december and that you're

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part of some

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group um that prepared a letter that

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went to trump could you tell us about

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the group that you were part of

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i have a health care coalition call

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and i've had this for several years now

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with physicians who are

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leaders of other medical organizations

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and we have gotten together now for

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several years and we've discussed many

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topics in medicine

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and of course we some topics that some

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people are not allowed to discuss

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especially if they are hired by a

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hospital or an insurance company because

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they can't speak out

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they have to do what they're told and so

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we have an opportunity to have a free

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among ourselves on those calls

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and in within those calls there are many

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sub-specialties

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not only their medical degree but they

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their degree in chemistry

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and some of them even statistics and so

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when you put that all together you've

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got quite an array

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of individuals who are very well

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versed in a wide variety of subjects

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and sorry is there a name for this group

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it's just called the healthcare

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um do they have a website no

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and we do not want to have a website uh

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that's the way that some of these people

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who are criticizing me

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certainly come and they fill your

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website with all of their comments when

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they have

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no idea what they're really talking

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about most of the time

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dr harvey rich works with us and i don't

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you're probably familiar with dr harvey

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rich he's from yale

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he's done a great deal of research

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ferry and he's a harvard graduate

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we have many individuals and doctor by

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dr fauci is not an uh

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basically someone that he is in the

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allergy department

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of the nih that's what he oversees

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allergy and yes he has a great deal of

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i don't do this just on my own no i'm

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not a researchist

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no i'm not even an epidemiologist

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but neither is really dr fauci

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and yet he does uh have a lot of

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uh syndrome he had also with sars one

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that and my question is what has changed

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dr fauci so yeah i want to get into

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that letter that you guys prepared and

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the way how often do you guys meet

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and so we began to research it and when

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we researched it we found the anti-virus

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fauci had used which was

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as well as other medications

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that would not kill the virus but it

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chemist phd uh also

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who is a researchest as well as other

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physicians and there was probably about

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are actually working with us as well on

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dosing of the hydroxycorquin

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because in this country he was the one

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who had the most experience at that

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particular juncture

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and so what we did was we found

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what hydroxychloroquine does we

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explained that in

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a letter and we explained that

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hydroxychloroquine could be a game

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changer for the american people

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that we wouldn't have to shut down our

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economies we wouldn't have to close our

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we wouldn't have to quarantine uh and do

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of these things that we certainly have

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done that has robbed us

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of community and so therefore uh we

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wrote the letter

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and we sent that to the president

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and it was hand carried to him uh

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through someone who

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knew him very very well and he

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apparently read the letter because the

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very next day

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is when he announced at the press

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conference about hydroxychloroquine

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could possibly be a game changer

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let me stop you there because that is

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kind of just an intriguing part that

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people are going to want to

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to to know is that there really was a

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connection between your letter

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and trump's announcement so how do you

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know

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when he got the letter you guys somebody

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reported to you guys that they'd

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actually handed it to him

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that is correct and and who was that

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um it was his late brother

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oh wow okay so so his late brother was

290
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connected to someone in your

291
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organization

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that is correct and he told you guys hey

293
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just so you know i got the letter and i

294
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gave it to my brother

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that is correct and then the very next

296
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day he's talking about

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hydroxychloroquine

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that is correct and ultimately

299
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trump says that he started taking

300
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hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic

301
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correct yes because

302
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they he knew the science he was told the

303
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science

304
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he's uh could figure that out himself

305
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that this hydroxychlorogen but my

306
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question is to those who are so opposed

307
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that i

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am giving uh erroneous information

309
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is this how can a drug like

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hydroxychloroquine that has been

311
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around for 70 years it is not approved

312
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for lupus

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it's not approved for rheumatoid

314
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arthritis all right that that that is

315
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fda approved so to speak it was approved

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by the fda in 1955

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for malaria anti-malarial

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prophylaxis but yet it is an antiviral

319
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it's an anti-inflammatory

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and in spain i have some spanish

321
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doctors there that have actually told me

322
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that they have found that it has a

323
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little bit

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of an anticoagulation property to it

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also

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why is it that we are starting to use

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even

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in breast cancer type of research we're

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using hydroxychloroquine

330
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has it been approved for that no and

331
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the lupus foundation who actually does

332
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prescribe 200 to 400 milligrams of

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hydroxychloroquine

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every single day for those patients

335
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they don't require an elect an ecg or

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our ec uh an ecg or ekg

337
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they don't require that they don't

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require any cardiac

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workup and yet the dosages that we are

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giving

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is maybe 400 milligrams for five days

342
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and then we are offsetting that with

343
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maybe one a week

344
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we get down to one every other week we

345
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get one down to one a month

346
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why because the half-life of

347
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hydroxychloroquine is 22.4 days

348
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it begins to build up and you don't need

349
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to take high doses

350
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you're not going to see all this is

351
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this is nothing more in fact i have

352
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talked personally

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and i do mean personally with the

354
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cardiologist

355
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it who is the qt world

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health expert and this

357
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individual told me they have no qualms

358
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about using hydroxychloroquine with

359
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azithromycin

360
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or doxycycline or hydroxychloroquine by

361
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itself

362
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and and all this correct me wrong this

363
00:14:08,870 --> 00:14:06,639
is all about treating

364
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covid very early on as soon as you test

365
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positive and

366
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have some symptoms to theoretically go

367
00:14:16,949 --> 00:14:14,560
on this especially if you're high risk

368
00:14:17,910 --> 00:14:16,959
what about as a prophylactic as trump

369
00:14:20,470 --> 00:14:17,920
was taking

370
00:14:21,990 --> 00:14:20,480
did you guys address that in your letter

371
00:14:24,949 --> 00:14:22,000
we didn't at the time

372
00:14:25,350 --> 00:14:24,959
no we didn't but we certainly have uh

373
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with

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the president

375
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and uh told that uh to him because

376
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that's information that we

377
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actually have discovered as we have gone

378
00:14:40,949 --> 00:14:38,720
further into

379
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uh the illness of course and correct me

380
00:14:44,230 --> 00:14:42,800
if i'm wrong that's the primary when we

381
00:14:45,509 --> 00:14:44,240
talk about malaria

382
00:14:47,990 --> 00:14:45,519
that is the primary use of

383
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hydroxychloroquine is as a prophylactic

384
00:14:51,990 --> 00:14:50,240
somebody's going to africa in order to

385
00:14:53,590 --> 00:14:52,000
assure they don't get malaria

386
00:14:55,829 --> 00:14:53,600
they take this as a prophylactic am i

387
00:14:58,710 --> 00:14:55,839
right about that you are correct

388
00:14:59,910 --> 00:14:58,720
that and then and we do that for our

389
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armed services

390
00:15:03,590 --> 00:15:02,959
our all of our armed service individuals

391
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who go

392
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over to a malaria uh

393
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infested area they all have the

394
00:15:18,230 --> 00:15:15,120
and that hydroxychloroquine um

395
00:15:21,829 --> 00:15:18,240
they don't they don't administer

396
00:15:24,470 --> 00:15:21,839
uh a electrocardiogram uh for

397
00:15:25,990 --> 00:15:24,480
these every service individual who has

398
00:15:28,350 --> 00:15:26,000
this in their backpack

399
00:15:29,749 --> 00:15:28,360
nor do they do a cardiac workup or an

400
00:15:33,350 --> 00:15:29,759
echocardiogram

401
00:15:34,710 --> 00:15:33,360
in fact we have now just i think it was

402
00:15:36,949 --> 00:15:34,720
day before yesterday i think it was

403
00:15:40,150 --> 00:15:36,959
september 13th

404
00:15:43,829 --> 00:15:40,160
jama has just put out an article on

405
00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:43,839
the heart muscle and how covid

406
00:15:49,030 --> 00:15:46,800
actually damages what we call the

407
00:15:52,069 --> 00:15:49,040
sarcomere

408
00:15:55,430 --> 00:15:52,079
within the cells of

409
00:15:58,230 --> 00:15:55,440
the heart muscle and they have found

410
00:15:58,550 --> 00:15:58,240
and this is also backed up with a study

411
00:16:01,829 --> 00:15:58,560
from

412
00:16:05,030 --> 00:16:01,839
uh i believe it's berkeley in california

413
00:16:08,629 --> 00:16:05,040
they've also backed this up that

414
00:16:10,790 --> 00:16:08,639
covid actually is doing probably more

415
00:16:12,150 --> 00:16:10,800
damage to the heart muscle than it might

416
00:16:14,710 --> 00:16:12,160
be doing

417
00:16:16,150 --> 00:16:14,720
in the respiratory system and it is

418
00:16:19,990 --> 00:16:16,160
breaking the small little

419
00:16:22,710 --> 00:16:20,000
filaments in that sarcomere

420
00:16:24,470 --> 00:16:22,720
that causes the heart to contract and

421
00:16:26,389 --> 00:16:24,480
then relax

422
00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:26,399
and they are finding that this can

423
00:16:31,189 --> 00:16:28,160
sometimes show up

424
00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:31,199
maybe even months later

425
00:16:35,110 --> 00:16:33,920
that that damage has been done to the

426
00:16:38,870 --> 00:16:35,120
myocardial

427
00:16:41,829 --> 00:16:38,880
muscle cells so so it may so

428
00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:41,839
in your view it it clearly makes sense

429
00:16:45,749 --> 00:16:43,680
that hydroxychloroquine

430
00:16:46,949 --> 00:16:45,759
not just your view and many many uh

431
00:16:50,310 --> 00:16:46,959
experts view that

432
00:16:53,829 --> 00:16:50,320
hydroxychloroquine should work for covid

433
00:16:56,710 --> 00:16:53,839
but what about studies or research or

434
00:16:57,110 --> 00:16:56,720
just use has it been used widespread

435
00:16:59,189 --> 00:16:57,120
enough

436
00:17:02,230 --> 00:16:59,199
at this point to treat covid that we've

437
00:17:04,630 --> 00:17:02,240
got some conclusions that can be drawn

438
00:17:06,309 --> 00:17:04,640
if those people who are criticizing will

439
00:17:08,710 --> 00:17:06,319
just look at the world map

440
00:17:09,669 --> 00:17:08,720
they will easily find that answer

441
00:17:12,949 --> 00:17:09,679
because

442
00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:12,959
the countries that have used the kobit

443
00:17:18,270 --> 00:17:16,000
and are now using it such as china

444
00:17:21,029 --> 00:17:18,280
who have used hydroxychloroquine

445
00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:21,039
hydroxychloroquine that is correct

446
00:17:24,949 --> 00:17:23,679
where has it been used most prevalently

447
00:17:35,029 --> 00:17:24,959
it has been used

448
00:17:37,909 --> 00:17:35,039
in india very early on

449
00:17:39,590 --> 00:17:37,919
they i communicated directly with the

450
00:17:42,630 --> 00:17:39,600
secretary of health

451
00:17:44,070 --> 00:17:42,640
in india not around the corner but

452
00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:44,080
directly

453
00:17:49,430 --> 00:17:47,440
and his take on this was this

454
00:17:50,470 --> 00:17:49,440
that they are going to protect their

455
00:17:52,270 --> 00:17:50,480
citizens because

456
00:17:53,909 --> 00:17:52,280
they have been used to using

457
00:17:57,430 --> 00:17:53,919
hydroxychloroquine

458
00:17:59,430 --> 00:17:57,440
for malaria there for many many years

459
00:18:00,710 --> 00:17:59,440
and so they didn't have a fear of it

460
00:18:03,830 --> 00:18:00,720
being a cardiac

461
00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:03,840
issue or any other of the horrible side

462
00:18:08,470 --> 00:18:04,960
effects that they say

463
00:18:10,950 --> 00:18:08,480
but nevertheless he said to me he said

464
00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:10,960
we are going to protect all of our first

465
00:18:15,190 --> 00:18:12,080
responders

466
00:18:17,510 --> 00:18:15,200
with hydroxychloroquine immediately and

467
00:18:20,870 --> 00:18:17,520
then we're going to set up a protocol

468
00:18:23,669 --> 00:18:20,880
that if a family member does have

469
00:18:25,510 --> 00:18:23,679
a covid then we're going to treat that

470
00:18:26,470 --> 00:18:25,520
individual with a different type of

471
00:18:29,029 --> 00:18:26,480
protocol

472
00:18:31,350 --> 00:18:29,039
however we are going to treat the entire

473
00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:31,360
family for prophylaxis

474
00:18:39,110 --> 00:18:36,000
and he went on to say we have 1.3

475
00:18:42,150 --> 00:18:39,120
billion people in our country

476
00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:42,160
we cannot afford to have millions coming

477
00:18:46,549 --> 00:18:43,520
into our health care

478
00:18:47,750 --> 00:18:46,559
system it would overload us we can't

479
00:18:51,029 --> 00:18:47,760
handle that

480
00:18:54,150 --> 00:18:51,039
nor do we have the privilege

481
00:18:56,710 --> 00:18:54,160
in india of having social

482
00:18:58,230 --> 00:18:56,720
distancing he said there is not such a

483
00:19:01,430 --> 00:18:58,240
thing as social distancing

484
00:19:03,350 --> 00:19:01,440
in india we are jam-packed in here

485
00:19:05,350 --> 00:19:03,360
and so we have to do something to

486
00:19:06,590 --> 00:19:05,360
protect our populace

487
00:19:08,470 --> 00:19:06,600
and so they started the

488
00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:08,480
hydroxychloroquine early

489
00:19:13,669 --> 00:19:11,520
jim have you ever had the flu yes did

490
00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:13,679
you go to the doctor

491
00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:16,720
no typically not okay well i'm sure that

492
00:19:18,710 --> 00:19:17,200
there's

493
00:19:20,310 --> 00:19:18,720
listeners here that have gone to the

494
00:19:22,070 --> 00:19:20,320
doctor with the flu

495
00:19:24,070 --> 00:19:22,080
and one of the first questions that they

496
00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:24,080
will be asked by the doctor or at least

497
00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:26,400
should be is when did your symptoms

498
00:19:30,870 --> 00:19:28,640
first start

499
00:19:33,270 --> 00:19:30,880
why did they ask that because the

500
00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:33,280
tamiflu is an antiviral

501
00:19:36,950 --> 00:19:35,360
that needs to be given within the first

502
00:19:40,070 --> 00:19:36,960
five days

503
00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:40,080
of coming into contact with the viral

504
00:19:45,029 --> 00:19:42,080
infection the flu

505
00:19:46,230 --> 00:19:45,039
and so after that it is not near as

506
00:19:49,590 --> 00:19:46,240
effective

507
00:19:50,470 --> 00:19:49,600
because the virus has replicated to such

508
00:19:53,669 --> 00:19:50,480
a point

509
00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:53,679
that it's hard for the tamiflu to catch

510
00:19:56,789 --> 00:19:54,320
up

511
00:19:57,510 --> 00:19:56,799
with the virus and that's the same

512
00:20:00,390 --> 00:19:57,520
property

513
00:20:01,029 --> 00:20:00,400
with hydroxychloroquine if people would

514
00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:01,039
not

515
00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:03,840
uh think well gosh we have to do so much

516
00:20:12,230 --> 00:20:04,880
research

517
00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:12,240
but we also have to use with that common

518
00:20:15,990 --> 00:20:13,600
sense

519
00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:16,000
and we have to say this is an anti-viral

520
00:20:19,270 --> 00:20:17,360
and it's not going to

521
00:20:22,710 --> 00:20:19,280
really be a whole lot different than

522
00:20:24,789 --> 00:20:22,720
when you go get tamiflu

523
00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:24,799
and what do what are the results out of

524
00:20:28,950 --> 00:20:26,640
india do we know

525
00:20:29,830 --> 00:20:28,960
the results out of india are that they

526
00:20:32,549 --> 00:20:29,840
were they

527
00:20:33,029 --> 00:20:32,559
have found they just did a study in fact

528
00:20:40,870 --> 00:20:33,039
i

529
00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:40,880
those

530
00:20:45,350 --> 00:20:43,760
who have taken the hydroxychloroquine of

531
00:20:48,710 --> 00:20:45,360
the first responders

532
00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:48,720
have an amazing um not only not

533
00:20:52,470 --> 00:20:51,600
getting cobid but also if they should

534
00:20:54,630 --> 00:20:52,480
get covered

535
00:20:56,149 --> 00:20:54,640
a survival rate now where a lot of these

536
00:20:57,830 --> 00:20:56,159
studies have gone wrong and as

537
00:20:59,590 --> 00:20:57,840
you know and i'm sure many of your

538
00:21:01,430 --> 00:20:59,600
listeners know that

539
00:21:04,070 --> 00:21:01,440
many of the articles such as the

540
00:21:07,110 --> 00:21:04,080
brazilian study the va study

541
00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:07,120
such as that that of lancet even

542
00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:10,080
in the new england journal of medicine

543
00:21:14,789 --> 00:21:11,760
those studies have been

544
00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:14,799
shown as disproven

545
00:21:18,070 --> 00:21:16,720
and one of the biggest reasons that they

546
00:21:22,789 --> 00:21:18,080
have been disproven

547
00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:22,799
even uh dr bullware up in uh minnesota

548
00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:25,840
his work was uh even uh showed to be

549
00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:28,559
faulty why he didn't see patients he did

550
00:21:34,070 --> 00:21:30,960
all of it over the phone

551
00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:34,080
and they leave out the zinc

552
00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:36,640
now why is the zinc important because

553
00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:37,760
the zinc

554
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:40,320
is the hydroxychloric when opens up the

555
00:21:45,350 --> 00:21:41,600
cell

556
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:45,360
and it allows the zinc to come in

557
00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:48,559
to the cell if by some chance

558
00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:50,960
the hydroxychloroquine hasn't had a

559
00:21:54,789 --> 00:21:51,600
perfect

560
00:21:58,390 --> 00:21:54,799
coating around the cell to disallow

561
00:22:01,750 --> 00:21:58,400
the virus in and when that zinc

562
00:22:04,230 --> 00:22:01,760
gets into the cell it actually

563
00:22:05,669 --> 00:22:04,240
works its way into the replication of

564
00:22:10,149 --> 00:22:05,679
the virus

565
00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:10,159
and it actually causes the rna

566
00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:13,440
of the covid virus not to reproduce

567
00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:15,760
and therefore sorry and this is all

568
00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:17,120
described in that letter

569
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:20,000
that made it to trump no that's not all

570
00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:21,840
described in a letter like that

571
00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:24,000
uh if the president doesn't have time to

572
00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:26,240
read a lot of that and

573
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:29,120
i'm sure he's been briefed on it if

574
00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:30,480
nothing else by his

575
00:22:37,510 --> 00:22:34,080
own physician uh in at the white house

576
00:22:40,950 --> 00:22:37,520
because as president trump said

577
00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:40,960
his physician and he are the ones that

578
00:22:44,549 --> 00:22:41,679
decided

579
00:22:45,669 --> 00:22:44,559
if hydroxychloroquine would be used for

580
00:22:48,390 --> 00:22:45,679
prophylaxis

581
00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:48,400
and or treatment and that's the way it

582
00:22:52,710 --> 00:22:50,240
should be for the american people

583
00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:52,720
it should be between why should the

584
00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:54,559
president have that privilege

585
00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:56,880
and not the rest of the american people

586
00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:58,240
well let's try let's let's talk let's

587
00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:59,679
talk about that as far as what the state

588
00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:00,320
of

589
00:23:04,230 --> 00:23:03,360
hydroxychloroquine is today in the u.s i

590
00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:04,240
know

591
00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:06,400
that cuomo had an order about

592
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:08,320
hydroxychloroquine in new york

593
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:11,280
that prohibited its use in in many ways

594
00:23:13,909 --> 00:23:11,760
um

595
00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:13,919
i don't i imagine that there's other

596
00:23:16,789 --> 00:23:15,360
governors that have done the same but i

597
00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:16,799
also imagine there's lots of governors

598
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:17,919
who have not done that

599
00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:21,280
so i assume there's lots of states

600
00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:23,600
that you can take hydroxychloroquine for

601
00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:28,390
there are not a lot of states and there

602
00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:30,480
are a lot of governors who have

603
00:23:35,590 --> 00:23:32,880
certainly prohibited

604
00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:35,600
i'm in missouri right close to uh next

605
00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:36,000
door to

606
00:23:40,990 --> 00:23:39,120
us is kansas and their governor uh has

607
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:41,000
come out and said that you can use

608
00:23:45,510 --> 00:23:42,240
hydroxychloroquine

609
00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:45,520
for anything but coded

610
00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:48,400
yeah i mean it's absolutely insane that

611
00:23:51,990 --> 00:23:50,799
governors are weighing in on

612
00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:52,000
something that should be between a

613
00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:54,320
doctor and patient i mean it's just

614
00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:56,480
not nothing but politics and we we can

615
00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:58,080
get into the politics of it in a little

616
00:24:01,110 --> 00:23:58,640
bit

617
00:24:02,950 --> 00:24:01,120
but let's go back to those still there's

618
00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:02,960
got to be lots of states

619
00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:04,640
where the governor hasn't made some

620
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:06,400
proclamation about hydroxychloroquine so

621
00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:09,360
what's going on in those states

622
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:12,880
in those states many times the physician

623
00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:14,000
is being

624
00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:18,320
obstructed by the pharmaceutical boards

625
00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:20,960
because the pharmaceutical boards uh

626
00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:21,919
have

627
00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:24,960
cited on the

628
00:24:29,269 --> 00:24:27,600
against hydroxychloroquine now why

629
00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:29,279
because hydroxychloroquine

630
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:32,480
to actually manufacture that

631
00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:35,840
one pill it's 0.05

632
00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:38,960
cents a pill to manufacture

633
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:40,559
now what are they going to be

634
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:42,720
manufacturing remdi severe for

635
00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:45,440
and by the way ram disavir was actually

636
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:46,000
tested in

637
00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:49,440
china and found to be by itself

638
00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:52,480
of no benefit whatsoever

639
00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:55,279
and so the rem disappear is going to

640
00:25:00,549 --> 00:24:57,120
cost between three thousand

641
00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:00,559
and four thousand dollars of vial

642
00:25:04,470 --> 00:25:02,960
now tell me that there's not an

643
00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:04,480
incentive here

644
00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:07,600
to push the rim disappear or

645
00:25:15,029 --> 00:25:11,200
the vaccine who makes ram disappear

646
00:25:19,149 --> 00:25:15,039
um gilead and is there a generic

647
00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:19,159
version there are versions there are

648
00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:21,520
manufacturers who now

649
00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:25,440
uh have been trying to shut down their

650
00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:28,400
manufacturing of hydroxychloroquine and

651
00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:29,600
some other drugs

652
00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:32,799
to make a generic rim disappear

653
00:25:38,470 --> 00:25:36,640
however my question is this why are we

654
00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:38,480
counting on something like when

655
00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:41,600
disappeared when a patient gets back ill

656
00:25:44,710 --> 00:25:44,400
and it has to be hospitalized why are we

657
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:44,720
over

658
00:25:48,149 --> 00:25:47,120
taxing our hospital staff and our

659
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:48,159
economy

660
00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:51,360
in order yeah and what's

661
00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:54,480
what was ran disappear um invented

662
00:26:01,590 --> 00:25:57,520
to treat um it was back

663
00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:01,600
with ebola and so it has not been gone

664
00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:03,440
through studies for the treatment

665
00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:07,039
of covid19 just as hydroxychloroquine

666
00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:07,840
has not

667
00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:10,880
right yet it's okay to prescribe and

668
00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:11,840
disaveer

669
00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:16,000
for for coven dodger fauci

670
00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:20,000
gave a study that he was promoting

671
00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:22,880
on rem disappear in at in the oval

672
00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:25,039
office at the white house

673
00:26:28,149 --> 00:26:26,960
obviously you know all this is the white

674
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:28,159
house um

675
00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:31,360
and so nevertheless what he did

676
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:34,640
he compared hospitalization

677
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:37,840
days he changed the study

678
00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:40,640
midstream because he was it the rem

679
00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:41,919
disappear was actually

680
00:26:45,830 --> 00:26:44,559
originally the study was set up to see

681
00:26:49,029 --> 00:26:45,840
if it made a difference

682
00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:49,039
in mortality and so

683
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:52,480
um it was showing that certainly

684
00:26:58,710 --> 00:26:55,600
it but what they did was they compared

685
00:27:01,909 --> 00:26:58,720
ram disavere giving the patient

686
00:27:03,110 --> 00:27:01,919
the medication five days compared to ten

687
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:03,120
days

688
00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:06,240
jim you don't compare the same drug

689
00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:08,960
according to the number of days that is

690
00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:11,200
not a scientific study

691
00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:13,120
a scientific study is if you have a

692
00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:14,640
placebo group

693
00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:18,000
to compare it to or if you even have

694
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:21,440
another drug to compare it to so please

695
00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:22,960
don't criticize me

696
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:25,520
for taking hydroxychloroquine and i am

697
00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:26,640
taking it by my

698
00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:31,120
on myself and for actually promoting it

699
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:34,880
because that study that dr fauci

700
00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:38,000
is touting is not a scientific

701
00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:41,039
based study at all and

702
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:44,480
dr rau in france said he could not

703
00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:48,000
in all good consciousness not give the

704
00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:49,520
medication when he saw

705
00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:51,520
such a difference in the thousands that

706
00:27:55,269 --> 00:27:53,039
he was treating

707
00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:55,279
and turning their lives around i've been

708
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:56,720
doing telehealth i

709
00:28:02,950 --> 00:28:00,000
see the difference in those

710
00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:02,960
within days that have turned around and

711
00:28:06,950 --> 00:28:04,799
don't need to go to the hospital

712
00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:06,960
they don't need to be on ventilators but

713
00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:08,640
you know the hospital doesn't mind that

714
00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:09,039
in

715
00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:12,399
pneumonia a cold

716
00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:14,720
pneumonia or they're on a ventilator

717
00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:16,000
they're getting from the federal

718
00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:18,720
government around 35 to 39 thousand

719
00:28:23,830 --> 00:28:21,039
dollars extra for that patient

720
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:23,840
of course you know so in the going back

721
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:25,120
to these states where the governor

722
00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:25,760
hasn't

723
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:27,840
banned in some way hydroxychloroquine so

724
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:29,760
now it's up to the doctors to prescribe

725
00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:30,880
it you're saying

726
00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:33,120
it's still really not happening because

727
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:34,640
of all of the

728
00:28:38,789 --> 00:28:36,480
negativity that's swirling around

729
00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:38,799
regarding hydroxychloroquine

730
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:41,919
right correct and a lot of those who are

731
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:43,600
working for hospitals which is

732
00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:46,799
over 50 percent of our physicians

733
00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:50,000
who are in the field now when they work

734
00:28:53,269 --> 00:28:51,760
for a particular hospital or an

735
00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:53,279
insurance group

736
00:28:57,909 --> 00:28:56,559
they are told to follow the protocol

737
00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:57,919
that hydroxycork hydroxychloroquine will

738
00:29:02,310 --> 00:29:00,399
not be used and what they're doing is if

739
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:02,320
you if you're very ill

740
00:29:06,549 --> 00:29:04,960
many times you go to the emergency room

741
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:06,559
they'll say well yes you're covered

742
00:29:12,389 --> 00:29:08,000
positive

743
00:29:13,990 --> 00:29:12,399
but your fever might be low grade 100 99

744
00:29:16,149 --> 00:29:14,000
sure you've got a sore throat sure you

745
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:16,159
have aches all over just go home and do

746
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:18,000
the best you can

747
00:29:21,830 --> 00:29:21,039
they're not offering them anything other

748
00:29:24,149 --> 00:29:21,840
than well

749
00:29:26,070 --> 00:29:24,159
one thing that all of our listeners can

750
00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:26,080
do or perhaps should do i'll ask your

751
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:26,880
opinion on it

752
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:29,520
is ask their own physician their

753
00:29:35,110 --> 00:29:30,880
personal family physician

754
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:35,120
and ask them uh hey would you consider

755
00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:37,120
prescribing this to me as a prophylactic

756
00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:38,399
because they're in a high risk group

757
00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:40,720
they're older or have some precondition

758
00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:43,600
or g doc i just want to know if i happen

759
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:45,039
to get covered

760
00:29:49,110 --> 00:29:47,440
would you prescribe it for me most

761
00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:49,120
physicians are being shamed

762
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:52,480
into not doing it not using it i mean

763
00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:56,159
personally i have a case now before

764
00:30:00,630 --> 00:29:57,840
the missouri board of healing arts

765
00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:00,640
because i have used hydroxychloroquine

766
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:03,679
on an individual who

767
00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:06,559
did well but her ex-husband is an

768
00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:07,760
oncologist

769
00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:10,799
and her ex-husband uh said that i was

770
00:30:15,149 --> 00:30:13,120
using a dangerous medication

771
00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:15,159
uh that i have never been using

772
00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:16,960
hydroxycorpum because it is too

773
00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:17,840
dangerous

774
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:21,120
and it's not fda approved for

775
00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:24,960
um is that is this 1984

776
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:27,440
or or what i mean this is just scary

777
00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:28,320
stuff now

778
00:30:32,389 --> 00:30:31,440
you seem to posit that this is about big

779
00:30:34,549 --> 00:30:32,399
pharma

780
00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:34,559
making more money off of drugs other

781
00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:36,960
than hydroxychloroquine

782
00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:40,960
maybe but to me i see just politics

783
00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:44,240
all over this that it's all everything

784
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:45,360
today in the media

785
00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:47,520
is either pro-trump or anti-trump it's

786
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:49,039
it's one or the other

787
00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:51,600
and everything is seen through that lens

788
00:30:55,269 --> 00:30:52,799
and when trump comes out

789
00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:55,279
and touts this the the left would like

790
00:30:58,389 --> 00:30:57,039
nothing more than to make him look like

791
00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:58,399
a buffoon

792
00:31:02,149 --> 00:31:01,120
for for suggesting that oh we've got

793
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:02,159
some

794
00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:04,080
miracle cure or not even a miracle cure

795
00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:05,840
but something that can help

796
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:08,320
and they want to make him look bad so

797
00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:09,600
they take the vet study

798
00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:13,279
and they um they misrepresent the the

799
00:31:16,789 --> 00:31:14,080
veterans

800
00:31:17,830 --> 00:31:16,799
study and the the governors come out

801
00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:17,840
against it and so on this is all

802
00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:19,360
politics in my opinion

803
00:31:23,590 --> 00:31:22,000
99 you you're i'm surprised you're

804
00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:23,600
putting it as much on

805
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:25,519
big pharma as you are maybe you can

806
00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:26,880
explain that but for me

807
00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:30,480
it's all politics because many of our

808
00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:31,600
politicians

809
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:34,640
have direct access or of a

810
00:31:39,509 --> 00:31:37,519
financial invested interest in pharma

811
00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:39,519
yeah i know but but their hatred for

812
00:31:43,350 --> 00:31:41,600
trump and and you gotta remember you

813
00:31:46,149 --> 00:31:43,360
know the media role in this

814
00:31:46,549 --> 00:31:46,159
is so huge because it was the media that

815
00:31:50,149 --> 00:31:46,559
was

816
00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:50,159
all over this hydroxychloroquine and

817
00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:52,960
looking for any evidence to make trump

818
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:53,600
look bad

819
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:55,679
for for stating his support of it i

820
00:31:58,950 --> 00:31:57,120
guarantee you

821
00:32:00,549 --> 00:31:58,960
if trump had instead at that press

822
00:32:01,710 --> 00:32:00,559
conference said you know what

823
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:01,720
somebody brought to my attention

824
00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:03,600
hydroxychloroquine but i would never

825
00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:05,279
take this i don't trust it i don't think

826
00:32:08,870 --> 00:32:06,960
that it's going to work for covid

827
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:08,880
no one should take this the exact

828
00:32:12,110 --> 00:32:10,240
opposite would have happened

829
00:32:13,509 --> 00:32:12,120
and everybody would start taking

830
00:32:16,549 --> 00:32:13,519
hydroxychloroquine

831
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:16,559
as a way to disprove trump so

832
00:32:19,430 --> 00:32:17,600
you know i know and i've listened to

833
00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:19,440
your other interviews where you know

834
00:32:22,470 --> 00:32:20,480
you've made the point that

835
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:22,480
you know politicians are in the the

836
00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:23,840
pockets of big pharma

837
00:32:27,509 --> 00:32:25,840
in many ways but i just think i just

838
00:32:29,509 --> 00:32:27,519
think the pro and and i know

839
00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:29,519
i know you're right about that but

840
00:32:33,269 --> 00:32:31,440
pharma also spends a lot of money in

841
00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:33,279
media

842
00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:35,440
yeah but this is this is i'm talking

843
00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:37,120
about regular media

844
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:40,320
not paid media this is regular media and

845
00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:42,000
uh i don't know it just seems to me it's

846
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:44,640
so overwhelming the the the for the

847
00:32:47,509 --> 00:32:46,799
anti-trump fervor in this country of the

848
00:32:49,830 --> 00:32:47,519
people on the left

849
00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:49,840
is so overwhelming especially at cnn and

850
00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:50,960
msnbc

851
00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:54,080
and in the major networks that that

852
00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:55,360
provides

853
00:32:58,549 --> 00:32:57,600
in my opinion the 100 explanation for

854
00:33:00,870 --> 00:32:58,559
this this is an

855
00:33:01,830 --> 00:33:00,880
anti-trump he's supporting it we're

856
00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:01,840
going to prove him wrong

857
00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:04,880
to make him look bad uh that there is no

858
00:33:08,630 --> 00:33:06,320
easy solution for kovid

859
00:33:09,909 --> 00:33:08,640
your solution sucks because you don't

860
00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:09,919
know what you're doing and you need to

861
00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:11,120
be out of office

862
00:33:17,269 --> 00:33:14,480
let's look at dr robert kedlick a minute

863
00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:17,279
uh who happens to be the assistant

864
00:33:23,669 --> 00:33:20,080
secretary for preparedness and response

865
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:23,679
he worked for has direct ties to

866
00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:25,279
emergent

867
00:33:30,630 --> 00:33:28,559
bio solutions and that company

868
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:30,640
is the company that is actually making

869
00:33:35,669 --> 00:33:32,240
the vaccine

870
00:33:39,909 --> 00:33:35,679
for oxford for making it

871
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:39,919
for johnson and johnson and astrazeneca

872
00:33:48,310 --> 00:33:43,279
all right and dr cadleck

873
00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:48,320
actually gave the biogenic

874
00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:50,880
solutions he gave them two billion

875
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:53,600
dollars for smallpox vaccinations

876
00:33:59,310 --> 00:33:56,880
for vaccine he is the sole proprietor

877
00:34:01,750 --> 00:33:59,320
that actually oversees all the

878
00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:01,760
pharmaceutical

879
00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:05,360
material for our country he also

880
00:34:11,869 --> 00:34:08,399
oversees the stockpiles that

881
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:11,879
the government has put back uh for of

882
00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:13,520
hydroxychloroquine

883
00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:17,599
and he has does he not possibly

884
00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:20,960
have a financial interest uh in

885
00:34:28,069 --> 00:34:24,000
doing so with his old company by

886
00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:28,079
the bio um or the emergence of vital

887
00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:29,280
solutions rather

888
00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:32,480
and so we have to question it's

889
00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:34,879
it overlaps yes there's a political

890
00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:35,919
agenda here

891
00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:39,119
we don't deny that absolutely

892
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:41,760
but also there's a financial overlap in

893
00:34:46,389 --> 00:34:43,040
this as well

894
00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:46,399
also power and position has the world

895
00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:47,679
really changed

896
00:34:51,349 --> 00:34:50,560
it hasn't changed remember sex power and

897
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:51,359
money

898
00:34:54,869 --> 00:34:53,040
those are the three things that drive

899
00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:54,879
the whole entire world it really hasn't

900
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:56,560
changed that much

901
00:34:59,670 --> 00:34:58,800
yeah no i and i agree with all that i

902
00:35:01,510 --> 00:34:59,680
think we're just

903
00:35:03,109 --> 00:35:01,520
slightly disagreeing about what was the

904
00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:03,119
major cause of it but

905
00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:06,480
let's now talk about vaccine um

906
00:35:10,510 --> 00:35:09,200
because i i do think one of the other

907
00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:10,520
kind of negativities toward

908
00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:11,760
hydroxychloroquine

909
00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:15,200
is well yeah that means the person got

910
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:16,400
sick

911
00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:18,560
and now you're treating you found a

912
00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:20,160
treatment for somebody sick but we don't

913
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:21,040
want people to get

914
00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:24,000
sick at all this is the situation we've

915
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:25,119
gotten into now where

916
00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:27,200
it's no longer seems to be about deaths

917
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:28,880
and number of deaths or overwhelming the

918
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:30,000
hospitals it's just about the number

919
00:35:33,190 --> 00:35:32,400
of cases that we freak out that there's

920
00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:33,200
a number of cases

921
00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:35,680
it doesn't matter what what their

922
00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:36,480
symptoms are

923
00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:37,920
does it matter if the person wind up in

924
00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:39,359
the hospital or not we're just freaking

925
00:35:42,790 --> 00:35:40,240
out over the

926
00:35:43,510 --> 00:35:42,800
sheer number of cases it's got people

927
00:35:44,950 --> 00:35:43,520
freaked out

928
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:44,960
and that's all the numbers that we hear

929
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:47,359
about so there's all this movement

930
00:35:49,750 --> 00:35:48,240
toward

931
00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:49,760
we just need to stop people from getting

932
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:51,280
this at all

933
00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:54,160
and therefore hydroxychloroquine that

934
00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:54,800
just

935
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:56,400
treats you once you're already sick what

936
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,800
good is that we need to keep people from

937
00:36:02,230 --> 00:36:00,560
getting sick to begin with

938
00:36:04,150 --> 00:36:02,240
now you could say that that movement is

939
00:36:05,109 --> 00:36:04,160
about money and i'm sure that plays a

940
00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:05,119
part of it

941
00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:07,839
too but i it's just part of the insanity

942
00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:09,280
that has just

943
00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:11,760
spiraled out of control when it comes to

944
00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:13,359
the way people are looking

945
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:15,839
at covid and you know trump is right in

946
00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:17,760
there you know potentially to blame on a

947
00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:19,200
lot of this for not speaking out

948
00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:22,480
more on it but um anyway that's what i

949
00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:22,960
see

950
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:26,160
that

951
00:36:29,430 --> 00:36:28,320
for some reason americans are buying

952
00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:29,440
into the idea that this thing

953
00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:32,960
needs to be totally eradicated

954
00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:36,240
okay we don't eradicate clue do we

955
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:38,720
uh we take our shots every every flu

956
00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:39,520
season

957
00:36:43,030 --> 00:36:41,359
everywhere you turn when you go to the

958
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:43,040
pharmacy when you go to the

959
00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:45,760
to the uh grocery store um when you go

960
00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:47,440
to sam's club when you go to

961
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:49,839
costco there's a there's a table there

962
00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:51,200
set up to get your flu shot

963
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:53,760
everything and by the way this is a

964
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:54,720
burning question i have

965
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:56,240
do you happen to know roughly speaking

966
00:36:59,430 --> 00:36:58,320
what percentage of americans get the flu

967
00:37:02,550 --> 00:36:59,440
shot

968
00:37:03,670 --> 00:37:02,560
no i don't i the reason i ask is

969
00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:03,680
one of the points i've made about

970
00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:05,680
vaccines like okay you're gonna

971
00:37:09,589 --> 00:37:07,920
come out with this and what percentage

972
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:09,599
of the population are even going to take

973
00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:11,200
it to begin with

974
00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:12,800
and what percentage is it going to be

975
00:37:14,950 --> 00:37:14,720
effective for because we know vaccines

976
00:37:16,870 --> 00:37:14,960
are

977
00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:16,880
not 100 effective maybe they're more

978
00:37:21,910 --> 00:37:19,200
like you could tell us but more like 50

979
00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:21,920
effective so even if 20 even if 20 of

980
00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:23,359
the people took it which would probably

981
00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:24,480
be high

982
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:26,240
you're really talking about 10 of the

983
00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:29,040
people having now taken the vaccine

984
00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:31,280
i i mean sorry having uh the the

985
00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:33,200
positive antibodies as a result of this

986
00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:34,240
vaccine so

987
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:35,599
that's what we're sitting around waiting

988
00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:39,119
for is for 10 of the population

989
00:37:45,910 --> 00:37:42,480
well um the lead

990
00:37:48,470 --> 00:37:45,920
pharmaceutical manufacturer

991
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:48,480
is moderate at this particular juncture

992
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:50,800
that seems to be leading the way

993
00:37:57,270 --> 00:37:54,480
and if we go back to that and

994
00:37:58,470 --> 00:37:57,280
there again you can say i'm a conspiracy

995
00:38:00,710 --> 00:37:58,480
theory you can say that

996
00:38:01,990 --> 00:38:00,720
i mean you can say anything you want

997
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:02,000
however

998
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:05,040
when you look at the company modera it's

999
00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:06,400
really strange that

1000
00:38:14,790 --> 00:38:11,119
ron rosenstein had a great deal of stock

1001
00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:14,800
in modera and who is going to be giving

1002
00:38:21,190 --> 00:38:18,800
our vaccine go ahead

1003
00:38:22,470 --> 00:38:21,200
uh with a particular company well it

1004
00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:22,480
happens to be

1005
00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:26,160
nancy rosenstein it was her

1006
00:38:31,829 --> 00:38:30,079
maiden name and she heads up the cdc

1007
00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:31,839
pharmaceutical

1008
00:38:38,470 --> 00:38:35,280
whoever will be picked modera is leading

1009
00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:38,480
in that modera has never made thus

1010
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:42,240
far a successful vaccine

1011
00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:45,599
never however and they use the uh

1012
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:50,160
messenger rna and that messenger rna

1013
00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:53,280
requires a lot of stabilizers not a lot

1014
00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:53,920
but they

1015
00:38:57,750 --> 00:38:56,480
i would i shouldn't say a lot requires

1016
00:39:01,030 --> 00:38:57,760
stabilizers

1017
00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:01,040
to stabilize that vaccine

1018
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:03,680
and what's amazing is that the fda does

1019
00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:05,280
not have to

1020
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:08,240
know or even inquire what those

1021
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:10,400
stabilizers are

1022
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:13,440
and we do know that those are being

1023
00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:17,040
made from fetal aborted cells

1024
00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:20,560
we do know that and if right now the flu

1025
00:39:24,470 --> 00:39:21,440
vaccine

1026
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:24,480
i was told um i haven't seen the article

1027
00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:25,760
yet but i was told

1028
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:28,960
this year is actually going to come

1029
00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:32,560
from basically a cell line from dog

1030
00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:37,119
kidneys and so we have to realize

1031
00:39:41,109 --> 00:39:40,160
that just because the fda has let this

1032
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:41,119
go

1033
00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:43,040
doesn't mean that they know even what's

1034
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:44,800
in the vaccines

1035
00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:47,280
and there's only one company that's

1036
00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:48,960
making a dna

1037
00:39:53,349 --> 00:39:51,760
vaccine it's studying that and that's

1038
00:39:55,910 --> 00:39:53,359
anova

1039
00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:55,920
and so however they are not at this

1040
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:56,960
particular

1041
00:40:01,109 --> 00:39:59,359
time in the lead for putting out the

1042
00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:01,119
vaccine

1043
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:03,760
so we have to there once again ask what

1044
00:40:08,550 --> 00:40:04,960
is the motive

1045
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:08,560
american people don't have symptoms

1046
00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:10,000
enough to ask that

1047
00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:11,760
then maybe they deserve to get what

1048
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:13,760
they're going to get just like we did in

1049
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:16,000
the anthrax vaccine

1050
00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:19,760
dr kedlick said that he personally gave

1051
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:22,240
our 800 of our armed service

1052
00:40:28,150 --> 00:40:25,280
individuals the anthrax

1053
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:28,160
vaccine back in the day and do you know

1054
00:40:33,109 --> 00:40:29,760
that that vaccine now

1055
00:40:36,829 --> 00:40:33,119
after several years back now

1056
00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:36,839
it is directly related with the gulf war

1057
00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:38,000
syndrome

1058
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:40,079
and so how do we know what we're getting

1059
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:42,160
today may not have repercussions

1060
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:43,040
tomorrow

1061
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:46,240
how do we know that maybe if there is a

1062
00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:48,240
political agenda here against

1063
00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:50,079
president trump how do we know that

1064
00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:52,640
they're not pushing the vaccine

1065
00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:55,200
so that maybe a year or two later from

1066
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:55,760
now

1067
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:57,680
we find that these vaccines had a

1068
00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:59,119
repercussion

1069
00:41:02,230 --> 00:41:00,960
they're not going to blame pharma who

1070
00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:02,240
are they going to blame

1071
00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:05,520
they're going to blame president trump

1072
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:09,119
is there a vaccine for malaria no

1073
00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:17,910
well it certainly was tried but no no

1074
00:41:21,670 --> 00:41:20,000
and there's no vaccine we know for for

1075
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:21,680
the cold

1076
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:24,800
no so why is it that if

1077
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:27,920
if after all these years

1078
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:31,200
we've yet to get a vaccine for these

1079
00:41:38,069 --> 00:41:34,800
major major diseases why is it that we

1080
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:38,079
think that we could get it for cobin

1081
00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:40,400
billions of dollars well but there's

1082
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:41,520
billions of dollars

1083
00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:44,240
potentially for hiv malaria and and the

1084
00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:46,800
cold right and and despite that

1085
00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:50,319
already we will be

1086
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:53,440
spending even more on this

1087
00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:56,560
there has to be to me this is nefarious

1088
00:42:01,349 --> 00:41:59,920
to me this is something i think that

1089
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:01,359
every american

1090
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:05,280
have

1091
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:08,560
the right to try the hydroxychloroquine

1092
00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:11,680
should they so desire i do have a

1093
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:13,280
website up now

1094
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:18,240
that it's personal healthcarenetwork.us

1095
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:21,200
to sign such a petition if you if any of

1096
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:21,920
your listeners

1097
00:42:26,309 --> 00:42:24,240
certainly wish to or if some of your

1098
00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:26,319
listeners may have

1099
00:42:33,589 --> 00:42:29,440
a loved one that has come down

1100
00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:33,599
with covid and is at high risk i think

1101
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:36,160
you know people say that uh president

1102
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:36,960
trump

1103
00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:38,880
uh certainly doesn't know what he's

1104
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:40,000
talking about

1105
00:42:44,790 --> 00:42:42,160
when he talks about hydroxychloroquine

1106
00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:44,800
or the covid in general

1107
00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:47,040
however i want to know how many givers

1108
00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:48,480
know what they're talking about these

1109
00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:49,520
governors

1110
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:53,040
who have purposely put covid patients

1111
00:42:56,950 --> 00:42:55,440
in nursing homes do they know what

1112
00:42:59,670 --> 00:42:56,960
they're talking about

1113
00:43:00,230 --> 00:42:59,680
do they know what they're doing i want

1114
00:43:02,069 --> 00:43:00,240
to know

1115
00:43:04,069 --> 00:43:02,079
and who gave them the right to practice

1116
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:04,079
medicine who gave them the right

1117
00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:07,520
to put those coveted positive

1118
00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:10,319
patients in with the most vulnerable

1119
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:11,760
i'll tell you what

1120
00:43:15,270 --> 00:43:14,079
those a lot of those nursing homes are

1121
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:15,280
getting about fifteen

1122
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:18,880
thousand dollars more uh money

1123
00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:21,599
for those uh co-bid patients in their

1124
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:23,119
nursing homes

1125
00:43:29,589 --> 00:43:25,760
is that what we what we've done are we

1126
00:43:33,829 --> 00:43:31,750
considering that we haven't come up with

1127
00:43:35,430 --> 00:43:33,839
the vaccine for malaria hiv the cold and

1128
00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:35,440
probably uh we could probably list a ton

1129
00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:36,960
of other things

1130
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:39,359
what do you th do you think we should

1131
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:40,000
consider that

1132
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:41,920
it's likely that there will be a vaccine

1133
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:49,270
i can't tell you that i really cannot

1134
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:51,440
tell you that i can tell you this

1135
00:43:55,190 --> 00:43:52,640
that we haven't come up with a

1136
00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:55,200
successful vaccine thus far

1137
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:57,040
and these other illnesses that you have

1138
00:44:02,230 --> 00:43:58,880
been so astutely

1139
00:44:04,150 --> 00:44:02,240
able to point out however

1140
00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:04,160
i do know this that there are going to

1141
00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:05,839
be billions of dollars

1142
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:08,640
that are going to be spent on a vaccine

1143
00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:09,839
when we could do as

1144
00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:13,119
putin has done and as china has done

1145
00:44:18,069 --> 00:44:16,079
and wrapped ramped up their production

1146
00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:18,079
of hydroxychloroquine

1147
00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:22,000
and zinc and then as putin did

1148
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:25,280
months ago began to administer it out

1149
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:25,839
throughout

1150
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:28,640
every region in russia to have it

1151
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:29,920
prophylactically

1152
00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:32,240
and when you take a medication maybe

1153
00:44:34,870 --> 00:44:34,160
once a week once every other week once a

1154
00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:34,880
month

1155
00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:37,520
i don't see that that being a burden

1156
00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:37,920
yeah

1157
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:41,040
the mindset

1158
00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:44,160
that we don't need a vaccine to get

1159
00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:46,560
through this and the best example i'm

1160
00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:47,839
going to go back to those same things

1161
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:48,560
it's like

1162
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:50,400
are people freaked out in america about

1163
00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:52,079
hiv no

1164
00:44:55,990 --> 00:44:54,480
because we've got a very effective

1165
00:44:58,069 --> 00:44:56,000
treatment for it now

1166
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:58,079
are they freaked out about the cold no

1167
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:59,119
because we've got treatment

1168
00:45:01,750 --> 00:45:00,480
are they freaked out about malaria no

1169
00:45:03,430 --> 00:45:01,760
we've got this prophylactic that you

1170
00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:03,440
take so people don't choose not to go to

1171
00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:04,880
africa because of the risk of malaria

1172
00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:06,319
they take these

1173
00:45:09,670 --> 00:45:08,319
as you point out hydroxychloroquine to

1174
00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:09,680
protect them against that and they still

1175
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:11,839
go on their their africa trip

1176
00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:14,800
so people need to realize that we don't

1177
00:45:17,829 --> 00:45:16,480
need vaccine

1178
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:17,839
to get through this even though that

1179
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:20,560
appears to be the current mentality

1180
00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:23,280
that has been sold to us and it is

1181
00:45:26,309 --> 00:45:24,560
unfortunate i would like to hear your

1182
00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:26,319
thoughts on on trump it's unfortunate

1183
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:27,839
that it appears that he's gotten

1184
00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:30,960
sucked into this thinking yes he has and

1185
00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:32,079
as we all know

1186
00:45:35,829 --> 00:45:34,319
or we should know if we're listening to

1187
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:35,839
the news at all

1188
00:45:42,309 --> 00:45:39,119
that when president trump

1189
00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:42,319
was first told about the covid

1190
00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:46,160
uh and the epidemiology portion of that

1191
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:49,200
in spreading dr fauci

1192
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:52,240
and dr bricks went into

1193
00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:55,440
the oval office and said president trump

1194
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:57,680
by the calculations coming out of the

1195
00:46:02,150 --> 00:45:59,280
united kingdom

1196
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:02,160
we have noted the british studies that

1197
00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:02,640
we

1198
00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:06,000
will probably lose 2.2

1199
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:09,839
million american lives with this kogit

1200
00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:12,640
if we don't do something now now you're

1201
00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:14,560
the president of the united states

1202
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:18,079
you're not a physician you you have

1203
00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:20,880
got these experts who have come to you

1204
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:22,960
and told you that this is the data that

1205
00:46:27,270 --> 00:46:24,000
they have gotten

1206
00:46:28,309 --> 00:46:27,280
from intelligence in britain now we know

1207
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:28,319
that that

1208
00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:32,079
british study that they had done was now

1209
00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:35,200
not correct but yet at the time

1210
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:36,960
that's what he was basing his

1211
00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:38,880
information on

1212
00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:42,800
and he did what a prudent leader does

1213
00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:46,880
a prudent leader goes to an expert

1214
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:50,319
and they ask the experts and that's what

1215
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:53,119
i know our group certainly has done we

1216
00:46:57,030 --> 00:46:54,160
have gone to the

1217
00:46:58,470 --> 00:46:57,040
experts not only in this country but

1218
00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:58,480
around the world

1219
00:47:03,589 --> 00:47:01,599
to see what has been done and we see a

1220
00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:03,599
striking difference

1221
00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:06,640
in the united kingdom canada and

1222
00:47:13,510 --> 00:47:10,240
the united states in not only our death

1223
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:13,520
rates but also in our economy and

1224
00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:17,040
also in those who have actually

1225
00:47:23,829 --> 00:47:20,720
who have co-bid we have seen an

1226
00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:23,839
increase rather than a decline

1227
00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:25,760
as drastically yes we're seeing a

1228
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:27,040
decline now i won't

1229
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:31,200
i won't argue that but we haven't seen

1230
00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:34,079
near what other countries who have used

1231
00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:35,760
the hydroxychloroquine

1232
00:47:42,390 --> 00:47:38,960
have had in their population

1233
00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:42,400
compared to us and

1234
00:47:47,829 --> 00:47:45,760
what about the shutdown um

1235
00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:47,839
you know looking back should we have

1236
00:47:54,069 --> 00:47:49,520
shut down at all

1237
00:47:57,589 --> 00:47:54,079
and what should we be doing today

1238
00:48:00,630 --> 00:47:57,599
well we looked at uh sweden of course

1239
00:48:02,150 --> 00:48:00,640
uh sweden did not shut down sweden kept

1240
00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:02,160
their schools open

1241
00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:04,240
they kept their economy going they kept

1242
00:48:08,549 --> 00:48:05,680
they kept community

1243
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:08,559
alive whereas we have shut down

1244
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:09,440
community

1245
00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:10,960
and by the way do you know what sweden's

1246
00:48:16,990 --> 00:48:13,520
policy has been on hydroxychloroquine

1247
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:17,000
try they certainly have not opposed

1248
00:48:23,829 --> 00:48:20,000
hydroxychloroquine as we have and

1249
00:48:26,549 --> 00:48:23,839
come out against it but i tell you this

1250
00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:26,559
they did not shut down right and that's

1251
00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:27,040
and

1252
00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:30,720
you said

1253
00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:33,200
because i i tend to agree with this that

1254
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:35,200
hey this thing is going to make its way

1255
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:36,559
through the population

1256
00:48:41,109 --> 00:48:39,359
and you can shut down for years and have

1257
00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:41,119
it go very slowly

1258
00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:44,319
or you can live your lives

1259
00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:46,240
be cautious if you're somebody who's

1260
00:48:49,589 --> 00:48:47,839
older or has pre-existing conditions or

1261
00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:49,599
whatever be more cautious

1262
00:48:52,790 --> 00:48:51,839
but this is this is going to happen it's

1263
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:52,800
either going to go

1264
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:55,520
quickly or it's going to go over years

1265
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:57,200
right isn't that kind of your point

1266
00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:59,520
you've heard this many times jim i know

1267
00:49:02,150 --> 00:49:00,880
you have because you've had other people

1268
00:49:04,710 --> 00:49:02,160
on this show

1269
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:04,720
and you've heard it probably some even

1270
00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:06,400
some of my podcasts

1271
00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:09,760
but never in the history of medicine

1272
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:13,040
have we quarantined well

1273
00:49:17,349 --> 00:49:16,400
individuals we quarantine even back in

1274
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:17,359
biblical days

1275
00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:20,160
those who had leprosy uh they didn't

1276
00:49:23,670 --> 00:49:22,000
shut everybody else up

1277
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:23,680
they took the leopards and they put and

1278
00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:26,400
they they actually quarantined them

1279
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:28,400
i mean that goes back to thousands and

1280
00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:30,480
thousands of years

1281
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:33,599
and so logically we could

1282
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:37,200
quarantine those who are at risk

1283
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:40,000
or maybe those who have multiple core

1284
00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:41,520
morbid conditions

1285
00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:45,119
but to actually shut down our country

1286
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:48,319
to shut down our schools to shut down

1287
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:51,119
community my goodness we've had a

1288
00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:53,280
repercussion from that

1289
00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:56,480
i know you're a very intelligent man

1290
00:50:01,670 --> 00:49:59,280
and you have i'm sure read about the

1291
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:01,680
suicide rate being up the child abuse

1292
00:50:07,349 --> 00:50:04,720
uh rates being up uh those

1293
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:07,359
who are depressed because they don't

1294
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:09,599
have interaction with other human beings

1295
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:11,440
we are meant to be

1296
00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:14,880
a society of community

1297
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:18,400
and there is risk to life

1298
00:50:22,309 --> 00:50:20,319
and and we've always understood that

1299
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:22,319
there is risk to life and we've been

1300
00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:23,359
willing to

1301
00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:25,680
take those risks that's why we go 65 on

1302
00:50:29,829 --> 00:50:27,040
the freeway instead of

1303
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:29,839
20 but for some reason this is all got

1304
00:50:34,549 --> 00:50:30,960
turned on its head

1305
00:50:37,589 --> 00:50:34,559
where we want to have absolutely no risk

1306
00:50:38,390 --> 00:50:37,599
that is correct and that is that that's

1307
00:50:41,109 --> 00:50:38,400
ludicrous

1308
00:50:43,349 --> 00:50:41,119
i mean you mentioned the flu we have flu

1309
00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:43,359
vaccines have we already eradicated the

1310
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:45,200
flu

1311
00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:46,720
do we acquire still but we still live

1312
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:49,040
our lives we still live our lives we

1313
00:50:51,750 --> 00:50:49,760
still

1314
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:51,760
what's stunning to me you just you put

1315
00:50:54,150 --> 00:50:53,440
it very well but what's stunning to me

1316
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:54,160
is

1317
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:57,119
that a we did it to begin with so the

1318
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:58,880
fact that we did shut down you know the

1319
00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:00,720
15 days

1320
00:51:07,270 --> 00:51:04,000
to flatten the curve that we did

1321
00:51:07,510 --> 00:51:07,280
quarantine a healthy people as you point

1322
00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:07,520
out

1323
00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:10,720
very unusual and first time

1324
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:12,960
ever so it's pretty shocking that we did

1325
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:14,160
it to begin with

1326
00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:16,319
what's even more shocking is that here

1327
00:51:21,750 --> 00:51:18,880
we are six months later

1328
00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:21,760
and we're still doing it and it seems

1329
00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:22,000
like

1330
00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:23,440
any pushback the people that were

1331
00:51:26,950 --> 00:51:25,040
pushing back during those two weeks and

1332
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:26,960
really upset about it and talking

1333
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:29,200
they've almost it's dissipated it's it's

1334
00:51:34,069 --> 00:51:30,800
it's done it's like the argument

1335
00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:34,079
is over we've lost we are

1336
00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:37,520
you know local la county health official

1337
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:40,720
an unelected woman barbara farrar

1338
00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:42,880
if i got her name correctly she comes

1339
00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:43,839
out every day

1340
00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:45,520
and she tells us what we're allowed to

1341
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:47,040
do and what we're not allowed to do

1342
00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:49,040
it's not even the mayor it's not the

1343
00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:51,359
governor it's not the legislature

1344
00:51:55,829 --> 00:51:54,000
it's an unelected local health official

1345
00:51:57,910 --> 00:51:55,839
who tells us every day

1346
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:57,920
what we're allowed to do that day and

1347
00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:00,480
people are okay with it

1348
00:52:04,630 --> 00:52:02,720
and that's what's baffling to me because

1349
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:04,640
that's not the american spirit that we

1350
00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:06,079
have known that's not the american

1351
00:52:08,950 --> 00:52:08,000
spirit that brought this country to its

1352
00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:08,960
greatest

1353
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:12,640
and it is a lack of that type of spirit

1354
00:52:17,109 --> 00:52:15,599
that will be our demise and it will be

1355
00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:17,119
that that will actually

1356
00:52:24,270 --> 00:52:20,480
cause our country to succumb to

1357
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:24,280
non-elected bureaucrats and when did

1358
00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:26,400
non-non-elected bureaucrats

1359
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:29,359
become such an authority where are they

1360
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:31,200
getting the social distancing there's

1361
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:31,599
never

1362
00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:35,200
been a study a high school girl did do

1363
00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:38,800
uh a paper at one point on some social

1364
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:40,000
distancing

1365
00:52:43,910 --> 00:52:41,920
or at that time it wasn't called social

1366
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:43,920
distancing but distancing

1367
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:47,040
and but as far as a double-blind

1368
00:52:50,630 --> 00:52:49,119
study has there really been a

1369
00:52:53,589 --> 00:52:50,640
double-blind study

1370
00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:53,599
of those standing in line to get closer

1371
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:54,480
together

1372
00:52:58,710 --> 00:52:56,400
i mean is it three foot is it six foot

1373
00:53:01,990 --> 00:52:58,720
is it twelve foot is it twenty feet

1374
00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:02,000
i mean what what is causing this

1375
00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:05,520
uh who who said that who said

1376
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:08,720
that mask will definitely protect you

1377
00:53:12,230 --> 00:53:11,680
i mean we have schools that are required

1378
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:12,240
to have

1379
00:53:18,790 --> 00:53:15,839
masks with teachers the janitors

1380
00:53:19,670 --> 00:53:18,800
the students but yet there are still

1381
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:19,680
outbreaks

1382
00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:22,800
in our schools of covid

1383
00:53:29,270 --> 00:53:26,240
using mask so and

1384
00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:29,280
masks are were originally for

1385
00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:32,160
those in surgery to protect from

1386
00:53:35,510 --> 00:53:33,040
bacteria

1387
00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:35,520
to protect from you know say the surgeon

1388
00:53:39,510 --> 00:53:37,200
sneezes into the field

1389
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:39,520
i mean who knows what i look i don't

1390
00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:40,240
have

1391
00:53:44,150 --> 00:53:42,720
much doubt personally that locking

1392
00:53:46,710 --> 00:53:44,160
people away

1393
00:53:49,109 --> 00:53:46,720
does slow the spread i think that seems

1394
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:49,119
to be proven but my point is

1395
00:53:52,470 --> 00:53:51,760
to what end are you locking people away

1396
00:53:54,549 --> 00:53:52,480
because

1397
00:53:56,309 --> 00:53:54,559
if there was a vaccine that we knew was

1398
00:53:57,349 --> 00:53:56,319
going to be 100 effective and that 100

1399
00:53:58,870 --> 00:53:57,359
percent of the people were going to take

1400
00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:58,880
in is going to be available tomorrow

1401
00:54:02,309 --> 00:54:00,960
then then maybe maybe i'd be okay with

1402
00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:02,319
like okay guys let's fatten down the

1403
00:54:06,390 --> 00:54:04,000
hatches and wait for this thing

1404
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:06,400
but we have no idea whether this vaccine

1405
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:07,520
is coming we have no idea what

1406
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:08,880
percentage will take it we have no idea

1407
00:54:12,710 --> 00:54:10,000
how effective it will be

1408
00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:12,720
so the idea of thinking about a vaccine

1409
00:54:15,190 --> 00:54:13,839
is totally wrong

1410
00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:15,200
we should be back at the original

1411
00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:17,680
thinking was not overwhelming the

1412
00:54:20,309 --> 00:54:18,400
hospitals

1413
00:54:22,309 --> 00:54:20,319
as long as we've got capacity at our

1414
00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:22,319
hospitals in ppe

1415
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:24,880
in all those things then we need to go

1416
00:54:27,750 --> 00:54:26,240
live our lives

1417
00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:27,760
some people want to be more careful than

1418
00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:29,359
others be more careful than others

1419
00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:30,720
everybody make your own decision as to

1420
00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:32,240
how careful you want to be

1421
00:54:35,430 --> 00:54:33,839
but we need to go back and live our

1422
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:35,440
lives we have a healthcare system the

1423
00:54:38,309 --> 00:54:36,960
best in the world ready to take care of

1424
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:38,319
you if you get sick

1425
00:54:41,670 --> 00:54:40,079
well it's funny that you should bring

1426
00:54:43,589 --> 00:54:41,680
that up jim because a lot of our

1427
00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:43,599
hospitals are going broke

1428
00:54:48,230 --> 00:54:46,480
because they've been empty because they

1429
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:48,240
have not been allowed

1430
00:54:52,230 --> 00:54:51,440
to actually do a lot of what hospitals

1431
00:54:55,030 --> 00:54:52,240
are supposed

1432
00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:55,040
to do they're not supposed to stand by

1433
00:54:57,750 --> 00:54:55,920
and wait

1434
00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:57,760
for a covid victim to come in they're

1435
00:55:01,270 --> 00:54:59,520
supposed to take care of myocardial

1436
00:55:02,069 --> 00:55:01,280
infarctions they are to take care of

1437
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:02,079
surgical

1438
00:55:07,750 --> 00:55:05,440
procedures both elected and non-elected

1439
00:55:09,030 --> 00:55:07,760
surgical procedures they are to take

1440
00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:09,040
care of our sick

1441
00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:10,880
but instead many of them have been

1442
00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:12,880
sitting with absolutely

1443
00:55:18,309 --> 00:55:16,079
nothing to do and they're going broke

1444
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:18,319
yeah i don't do a lot of them still have

1445
00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:19,440
policies in place

1446
00:55:23,829 --> 00:55:22,240
that they will only treat essentially

1447
00:55:26,549 --> 00:55:23,839
emergencies or

1448
00:55:28,309 --> 00:55:26,559
really serious conditions that has

1449
00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:28,319
pretty well

1450
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:30,960
gone away i think for the most part but

1451
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:31,680
there still

1452
00:55:38,309 --> 00:55:34,880
are those out there who will adhere

1453
00:55:39,349 --> 00:55:38,319
to that recommendation why because

1454
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:39,359
they're afraid

1455
00:55:45,270 --> 00:55:42,960
because i will tell you hundreds

1456
00:55:46,950 --> 00:55:45,280
if not thousands of letters have gone

1457
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:46,960
out to physicians

1458
00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:49,760
warning them that they should not be

1459
00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:50,559
talking about

1460
00:55:58,789 --> 00:55:54,880
any type of uh

1461
00:56:03,349 --> 00:55:58,799
treatment for covid that would veer away

1462
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:03,359
from touting the vaccine and touting

1463
00:56:08,470 --> 00:56:06,960
drugs like rem disappear that even goes

1464
00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:08,480
and i want you your listeners to

1465
00:56:13,510 --> 00:56:10,400
understand this dr

1466
00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:13,520
fauci was asked at one point

1467
00:56:19,589 --> 00:56:16,960
about the uh people of color

1468
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:19,599
possibly being more vulnerable to kobit

1469
00:56:22,789 --> 00:56:20,720
and what would

1470
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:22,799
he have to offer them and what he

1471
00:56:28,150 --> 00:56:23,920
offered them

1472
00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:28,160
was actually social distancing mask

1473
00:56:34,470 --> 00:56:31,200
and quarantine all right and that's fine

1474
00:56:37,190 --> 00:56:34,480
and and i'm not an anti-vet mac mask

1475
00:56:38,710 --> 00:56:37,200
or pro mask i could care less whatever

1476
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:38,720
you want to do

1477
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:41,760
but the point of it being is this

1478
00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:45,200
that he knows he should know that

1479
00:56:52,150 --> 00:56:48,880
most all of our people of color

1480
00:56:55,270 --> 00:56:52,160
are particularly vitamin d deficient

1481
00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:55,280
and we have found within our group

1482
00:57:01,109 --> 00:56:57,520
that we have found that individuals who

1483
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:01,119
have a vitamin d level of 50 to 75

1484
00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:05,520
have not gone on ventilators now then

1485
00:57:09,910 --> 00:57:08,400
should we not at least be telling our

1486
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:09,920
population

1487
00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:12,720
get your vitamin d level up as winter is

1488
00:57:17,589 --> 00:57:14,240
approaching

1489
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:17,599
get your vitamin c right

1490
00:57:21,190 --> 00:57:20,240
get your vitamin a right which actually

1491
00:57:24,710 --> 00:57:21,200
helps protect

1492
00:57:27,670 --> 00:57:24,720
your respiratory system take your zinc

1493
00:57:29,190 --> 00:57:27,680
and with that take about two milligrams

1494
00:57:32,549 --> 00:57:29,200
of copper

1495
00:57:35,990 --> 00:57:32,559
um because if you take a lot of you you

1496
00:57:39,190 --> 00:57:36,000
the virus can deplete you of your zinc

1497
00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:39,200
and then if take elderberry

1498
00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:41,280
for heaven's sakes can't we at least do

1499
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:43,440
that and and should people take

1500
00:57:49,109 --> 00:57:46,480
should people take zinc

1501
00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:49,119
yes they should take because that you

1502
00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:50,960
can get over the counter

1503
00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:52,480
well yeah you can get it over there you

1504
00:57:55,270 --> 00:57:53,920
can get elderberry over the counter you

1505
00:57:56,789 --> 00:57:55,280
can get vitamin c over the candidate you

1506
00:57:58,150 --> 00:57:56,799
can get vitamin d over the counter

1507
00:58:00,069 --> 00:57:58,160
you can copper over the counter you can

1508
00:58:01,910 --> 00:58:00,079
get all these things you can get iodine

1509
00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:01,920
some but you should you know encourage

1510
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:03,520
you know people out there such as myself

1511
00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:04,400
who have

1512
00:58:08,390 --> 00:58:06,960
parents that are older they should be

1513
00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:08,400
encouraging their parents to be taking

1514
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:10,000
these types of things right

1515
00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:11,359
they should they themselves should be

1516
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:14,000
taking it if we if we build up our own

1517
00:58:17,030 --> 00:58:15,119
immunity

1518
00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:17,040
we might have a better chance of

1519
00:58:23,109 --> 00:58:19,359
actually fighting this virus

1520
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:23,119
in a much broader sense but

1521
00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:24,960
last question uh because we're running

1522
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:26,160
out of time and just to wrap up on

1523
00:58:30,549 --> 00:58:27,520
hydroxychloroquine

1524
00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:30,559
um my parents are in their 80s

1525
00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:32,160
they're in good health but they're in

1526
00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:34,480
their 80s would you

1527
00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:36,559
if they had access to hydroxychloroquine

1528
00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:38,400
as a prophylactic would you recommend

1529
00:58:43,349 --> 00:58:40,960
that they take it

1530
00:58:44,309 --> 00:58:43,359
i probably would yes because i don't

1531
00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:44,319
because they're in a high risk they're

1532
00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:45,280
in a high-risk group

1533
00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:48,880
would have them take it

1534
00:58:56,230 --> 00:58:52,799
least as long as coronavirus

1535
00:58:58,870 --> 00:58:56,240
this covet is out there

1536
00:58:59,910 --> 00:58:58,880
probably so maybe one in a month

1537
00:59:03,829 --> 00:58:59,920
eventually

1538
00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:03,839
um to because it has like i said a 22.4

1539
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:04,559
day

1540
00:59:09,670 --> 00:59:07,599
half-life and there's no point

1541
00:59:11,510 --> 00:59:09,680
in giving a lot of medication i mean you

1542
00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:11,520
can only fill the glass so full before

1543
00:59:16,390 --> 00:59:13,520
it overruns why overrun it

1544
00:59:19,190 --> 00:59:16,400
fill it to i mean just there again go

1545
00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:19,200
back to some just common sense

1546
00:59:24,069 --> 00:59:21,920
that's what we need to be using with

1547
00:59:26,230 --> 00:59:24,079
science

1548
00:59:27,190 --> 00:59:26,240
thank you to dr graves she'd very much

1549
00:59:29,910 --> 00:59:27,200
like you to

1550
00:59:31,829 --> 00:59:29,920
sign her petition in support of the use

1551
00:59:33,349 --> 00:59:31,839
of hydroxychloroquine you can go to the

1552
00:59:35,710 --> 00:59:33,359
personal health care network

1553
00:59:37,190 --> 00:59:35,720
website that's

1554
00:59:39,829 --> 00:59:37,200
personalhealthcarenetwork.org

1555
00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:39,839
to sign the petition and or contribute

1556
00:59:43,589 --> 00:59:40,480
to her

1557
00:59:45,589 --> 00:59:43,599
organization thank you also to our

1558
00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:45,599
producer michael parker thank you to our

1559
00:59:48,309 --> 00:59:46,079
intern

1560
00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:48,319
jake wall we will be back with another

1561
00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:50,480
episode of the hidden truth show

1562
00:59:58,630 --> 00:59:56,870
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1563
01:00:02,150 --> 00:59:58,640
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1564
01:00:04,390 --> 01:00:02,160
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1565
01:00:05,190 --> 01:00:04,400
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1566
01:00:08,069 --> 01:00:05,200
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1567
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